BP Docs WIKI and forums questions
November 22, 2012 at 4:12 am #1005Scott VothKeymaster
Hi @ovidiu – I moved your questions over to the forum so that we can more easily share with community and can attach screenshots:
1. is this the right place for support or should I post in the wordpress forums?
Yes, please post issues here, and we will pass along to the appropriate support people. Thanks!
2. The WIKI link was automatically added to my menu although I chose not to activate the WIKI plugin.
The BuddyPress Docs Wiki is automatically installed and activated when you install CBOX, since it is a recommended plugin (see https://commonsinabox.org/documentation/plugins for a description of Required, Recommended and A La Carte CBOX plugins ). If you want to deactivate it, just go the the CBOX dashboard and deactivate.
3. It seems the bbpress forum plugin is recommended but that sounds contradictory to the BP explanations. re: 3. the BB settigns page says: You may activate both Group and Site Wide forums, but this may create a poor experience for your members.
Can someone elaborate a bit which one option to chose? I need Group Forums but a global forum wouldn’t be bad either but I’m not sure about the ”bad user experience”…
I think you are referring to the third page in the BuddyPress settings that looks like this:
I am actually not that sure about that question. Boone @cbox_admin (or anyone else) – can you elaborate a bit on the performance tradeoffs when using both group forums and sitewide forums.
November 22, 2012 at 6:59 am #1008OvidiuParticipant
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thanks for helping out!
Let me understand this properly: FROM WHERE did you move my topic into the forums? I am sure I posted them in the forums… I went to COMMUNITY => Help And Support, joined the group and posted there which is here, exactly here where we are writing right now!? Totally confused 🙂
You said: The BuddyPress Docs Wiki is automatically installed and activated when you install CBOX, since it is a recommended plugin
I don’t really think that is correct since I remember that after installing cbox, when cbox presented me with a list of plugins ot activate I could uncheck some of them so the moment you give users the option of not activating plugins you cannot assume they will be active. If I had not had a chance to chose to not activate the wiki plugin this would have made sense. Anyway, I know how to remove the wiki entry from the menu, I just mentioned it here to point out the inconsistency. No further action is needed.
As to #3 the screen shot you posted is exactly what I was referring to. I hope Boone can clarify a bit? I installed cbox, and bbpress was activated automatically but when visiting its settings page, I get a warning about a slug conflict with the group forums slug. I’d really appreciate a little bit of explanations as to which forums to chose and which one does what/where?November 22, 2012 at 2:08 pm #1011Scott VothKeymaster
Hi – Sorry for the confusion. In Help and Support, there is a big box at the top which is called “Announcements” where members of a group can post updates for the group. These go into the group activity stream. Many people are using that to post forum support questions (which is totally fine), but it is hard to follow them there – you can’t tag them, you can’t add screenshots. So what I’ve been doing is moving these from the Announcement section to the forum, where the community can discuss more easily. No big deal.
In terms of the Recommended plugins – I believe they are auto installed and activated the first time you install CBOX – but yes, at the end of the end of the installation process, you can deactivate the ones you don’t want. Just curious – when you uninstalled – did you have to go to the custom menu to remove the item?
I will leave #3 up to Boone – since I am not sure.
Thanks and sorry your posts are going to spam.November 22, 2012 at 5:53 pm #1014
@ovidiu – To use bbPress 2.2, you must deactivate the “Discussion Forums” component under “Settings > BuddyPress in the WP admin dashboard.
Sorry for not making this clearer in the documentation.
Let me know if that helps.November 22, 2012 at 7:50 pm #1015OvidiuParticipant
@Scottvoth: I’m pretty sure I was asked which plugins should be activated after activating cbox but I stand to be corrected…
@r-a-y: Thanks, I got that, I also know I can simply change the global forums slug and use both in parallel, I was more looking for info on the pros/cons of each of those solutions… i.e. as I understand those 2 options, the global forums would: “Your site will have central forums that are not isolated to any specific group. Choose this if you’d like to have a central forum area for your members.”
so I’m a bit confused as that is what you suggest but then it seems this site here is using the other forums implementation (per group forum) or am I wrong?November 22, 2012 at 8:25 pm #1016
Just to update everyone here, I’ve just added some code that will detect if the Wiki plugin is installed. If it is, then we add the menu item. If it isn’t, then we don’t do anything.
This code will make its way into 1.0-beta2 next week.November 23, 2012 at 7:35 am #1019
, I was more looking for info on the pros/cons of each of those solutions… i.e. as I understand those 2 options, the global forums would: “Your site will have central forums that are not isolated to any specific group. Choose this if you’d like to have a central forum area for your members.”
so I’m a bit confused as that is what you suggest but then it seems this site here is using the other forums implementation (per group forum) or am I wrong?
Hi @ovidiu, here’s a quick rundown about bbPress (the plugin) vs. BuddyPress’ built-in forum options.
bbPress is being actively developed and, as of v2.2, has good BuddyPress support including group forums. However, in order to use bbPress for BuddyPress groups, you need to disable the “Discussion Forums” component in BuddyPress.
bbPress has a bunch of cool options like extensive moderation via the WP admin dashboard, topic splitting, revisions, spam management, etc. BuddyPress’ built-in forums, by default, do not come with any of these options and heavily relies on plugins to fill in the void.
If you need to migrate from BuddyPress’ built-in forums to bbPress, read this guide:
(Test this on a local, testing environment before doing anything in a production environment!)
Also, BuddyPress’ built-in forums are no longer being developed, but will continue to be supported at least for the next few versions. Boone ( @cbox_admin) might be able to chime in to give a clearer roadmap, but I believe that’s the goal.
Hope that helped to explain things! Let me know if you have any other Qs.
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